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Post by Bryce on Feb 22, 2019 3:09:04 GMT
I have Bryse Wilson. He is in the Yahoo player universe but he does not populate in our league because he is only “P” eligible since he only had 1 start and 2 relief appearances last year. We do not have P positions, just SP and RP in this league. The eligibility requirements are 3 starts for SP and 5 relief appearances for RP.
So am I going to miss out on his first 3 starts or 5 relief appearances? Doesn’t seem right to me because I picked up guys last year (Kopech, Bieber, etc...) before their 3rd start in other leagues. They did have P positions in those leagues though.
I know you said you have other leagues like this, so is that how it works in this league type that only has SP and RP? Thanks
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Post by Bryce on Feb 22, 2019 3:18:14 GMT
Forrest Whitley, Jesus Luzardo, etc... are in our league and listed as SP and haven’t even debuted yet so they haven’t started 3 games. Feel like I’m at a disadvantage here.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2019 6:32:29 GMT
Veto
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Post by TeddyK on Feb 22, 2019 11:05:44 GMT
Yes. It’s the exact same way. No “P” slot in our league because we want to force 5 SP and 5 RP’s on active roster. It sucks in this case for you, but it’s a rarety, not a usual occurance.
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Post by TeddyK on Feb 22, 2019 11:08:22 GMT
I am 100% against adding the “P” slot.
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Post by Bryce on Feb 22, 2019 12:42:56 GMT
So I am going to miss out on 3 starts of stats then and I’d hate to lose a week by 1 W or K because of this situation that is only effecting me currently.. With that being the case, I believe that whenever Bryse Wilson is called up I should be allowed to pick up a different pitcher off the waiver wire to make 3 starts in his place. Once he gains the SP then I can add him to my roster and drop the other pitcher. Thoughts? Seems like a fair compromise to me.
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Post by TeddyK on Feb 22, 2019 13:51:52 GMT
Not going to happen bro. Sorry but it’s a minor issue. Not reinventing the wheel here because of one technicality over a player you drafted for his future potential not his 2019 potential. Dude likely won’t even pitch this year. He pitched one late August start in 2018 and two mop up game losses in September. The rules are the rules, until he qualifies and is added to the list we replace him with the other Bryce as a stopgap placeholder for you.
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Post by TeddyK on Feb 22, 2019 14:05:41 GMT
Just curious? If he starts and gets shelled or relieves and blows up, should we add those stats to you as well? Maybe they would cost you a point in whip or era just as easily as they could get you a win or k. It’s really a non-issue. You are basically holding a minor leaguer in a bench spot for the year, if the real concern was 2019 then he would have been drafted in the minors not as a major league roster piece. I understand the effort to try and circumvent the rules on your part, I would probably ask the same, but we don’t want to change rules left and right here. Rules will change when necessary only. When the integrity of the league itself is at stake. This is an inconvenience to you for sure, but nothing that really effects the gameplay or league drastically enough to force an altering of the position rules or to allow “replacement players”.
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Post by Bryce on Feb 22, 2019 14:06:33 GMT
“This is not to say that this league is a dictatorship. Often, things will be going to a vote; the current system is in place for ease.”
I would like to think it’s worth voting on. Again, I don’t want to pick someone else up now, just whenever he gets called up if that happens this year since every stat counts.
Pedroia only played 3 games but he is listed as a 2B and not Utl only, Whitley hasn’t even pitched yet and he’s a SP eligible and not P only, etc... My situation is similar to those so I think it’s a loophole because the eligibility requirements listed for some reason are not consistent here. Thanks
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Post by russmaine on Feb 22, 2019 14:25:06 GMT
He may or may not be added before the season starts. These are some of the risks we take with stashing minor leaguers or early call ups on your MLB roster. They can't be sent back down, and essentially eat up a roster spot.
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Post by russmaine on Feb 22, 2019 14:26:03 GMT
I too am against a "P" only slot.
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Post by russmaine on Feb 22, 2019 14:28:05 GMT
This is also one of the reasons we went with 8 reserve slots and not the standard 6.
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Post by Bryce on Feb 22, 2019 15:57:58 GMT
Agree with no P spot, I have not asked for that. But I do disagree that is one of the risks considered when drafting a guy as normally you get to play a guy as soon as he is called up, like the examples I have already given.
Looks like this matter is being dictated unfortunately. I agree the chance of it having a big outcome is small but if it does I will be just as upset as y’all would be, right? If he gets a spot start I would start him because of the chance at a W on a good team, and if I lose that week by 1 W and miss the playoffs or get a lower seed by 1 game I would feel cheated.
Just my thoughts and I don’t think this is a huge change. The guy I pick up would be a place holder just like the guy that is on my roster now, except I could actually get stats like I should be able to. Reasonable right?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 2:26:43 GMT
That was part of the risk of drafting “prospects” in the major league draft.
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Post by Bryce on Feb 24, 2019 4:16:19 GMT
Yeah I’ve cooled off on it now... I see both sides of it. A few others have left feedback about this same issue on Yahoo so we’ll see if they do anything about it. If not I’m just hoping for the best.
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